MULTIVERSEhippit hoppity abolish private property
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The most annoying thing ‘socialists’ have done is creating their own lexicon and different meanings of English words so they can be oh so superior to the ’normal folks’ without actually changing anything. The point of language is communication, to be clear. If your terms are confusing people, that’s your problem, not people’s problem
Maybe the problem is you, as these are understood terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property (do not the “Not to be confused with Personal property.” at the top of this page)
The point of the post was that they aren’t commonly understood.
you’re this close to getting it.
Very helpful.
And the point of the post is capitalists are the ones that caused that…
Yeah ,well op gatekeeping and being cagey about the difference in the two doesn’t educate anyone. I tried reading the Wikipedia pages and it didn’t really clear up the difference for me exactly.
Private property is capital like factories, land, things that produce on a large scale that is owned by a person or business. Public property is the same as private property but owned by the government that is for the public. Personal property is things like your toothbrush, your clothes, your toaster, etc.
Gotcha, thanks for that.
So this part of the Wiki didn’t clear up anything for you, despite being basically exactly what Comrade_Spood said below?
I’ve had you tagged as ‘lying troll’ for so long now, and you never fail to live up to it Dick.
I noticed the last line and that’s all I needed. You have been tagged “antagonistic dipshit” for about 2 years and it’s the truth.
These terms do not appear mutually exclusive.
“Abolish private property” sounds like it would include “abolish private personal property” such as the bike in the meme.
Do you have better terms?
Personal/private property for things individuals own and corporate property for things companies own? That’s just a suggestion off the top of my head
A Corporation is any organization that is legally recognized and can act as a single entity, so a co-op, commune, even an HOA that has common areas would probably be setup as a corporation even if the property relations are different than a private for-profit company.
The distinction can be seen in late 1800s Mexico where liberal reformers were trying to get rid of corporate ownership of land to promote individual ownership like in the US. What this meant was many villages who held property in common since before the aztecs were being forced to split up the common land and distribute it to each individual family, so that then the rich landlords could piece by piece buy up the land starting with the poorest families.
Would rental property owned by small landlords be considered “corporate property”?
Congratulations! You made the distiction even more complicated by introducing another, superfluous term! /s
But they are terms they understand, so it’s okay! Communication restored without any critical thought on why they didn’t understand the other words.
“Business” would be a better term than “corporate” in this context.
Sure, it was just a suggestion off the top of my head as I said, your suggestion is definitely better :)
this is anything, though.
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You literally read a meme that says “capialists have miseducated you to conflated these terms” and your reply was “I am conflating these terms and I blame socialists.”
If you had any idea what you were talking about, you’d probably be less annoyed. You’re on the Internet: try using it to learn.
if you were educated enough to understand the fucking meme, you wouldn’t be in here posting your dumbass reply, thinking you’re a lot fucking smarter than you actually are.
the sheer number of people posting here criticizing the meme and validating it in the process
Maybe its an edge case, but what if you are a woodworker making a living building and selling furniture by yourself from your garage? Would that not be a “business” and would that entitle your garage to be public property?
It depends. If your workshop is suited for only one person, then it’s fine as it is. If it’s a huge-ass workshop for several people, you shouldn’t be able to gatekeep that.
Most of this kind of drivel relies on people not knowing how to spot an equivocation fallacy when they see one. But there’s no need to teach critical thinking, just give them enough reading, writing, and arithmetic to be useful office drones…
Interesting. Thanks for the explanation and history.
Ok. So what if its a worker owned and run collective of like 5 workers? They are all equals doing equal work getting equal reward from selling the goods they make. They don’t have the right to lock it up at night and prevent people from coming in and running off with all the materials and equipment? I’m just trying to understand the logistics of how this works.
Kinda a distinction without a difference tho. I need to live somewhere, and I don’t want strangers to have access to my room. So private property makes sense there. No different from having an RV that I could live in, which is personal property.
well, that’s not private property. that’s personal property. so it does not, in fact, make sense there.
There’s a big difference, personal property is the things you personally use yourself, your home, your computer, your pants, your toothbrush.
Private property is the things the bourgeoisie own that they don’t use themselves, a vacant house or a house for renting, a factory, copyrights. Usually used to extract labour value from those who can’t afford private property.
Surely private property is also the property one owns and directly uses themselves to live in?
No. As has been explained to you multiple times, that is personal property.
The difference is kind of simple: is it something only you are using? It’s your, personal property. Your bicycle, your home.
Is it something that is intended for communal usage? A park, a factory, a tram network, a hospital? It’s a public property and shouldn’t be privately owned.
There are books and books are written and could be written gratifying nuances around the edges, but that’s the gist of it
Again this is an issue where the terms personal and private property have been deliberately conflated to justify treating one as the other.
Something being personal property doesn’t mean anyone has the right to take and use it.
What’s the F in the spokes about?