MULTIVERSEMULTIVERSE has defederated fedinsfw.app for hosting child pornography
Grail
Hello MULTIVERSE users and off-site visitors alike. We have recently defederated fedinsfw.app due to ongoing child pornography concerns which the fedinsfw admin team are aware of, and do not intend to address. Before I explain the key issue, I’d like to define a few terms:
- In Australia, Child Pornography Material is legally defined by the Criminal Code Act 1995, section 473.1 as:
(a) material that depicts a person, or a representation of a person, who is, or appears to be, under 18 years of age and who […] is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive;
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(c) material that describes a person who is, or is implied to be, under 18 years of age and who […] is engaged in, or is implied to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive; or […]
Jailbait is a slang term for pornography depicting subjects who appear to be of age (adults), but are in fact underage (children; adolescents)
Fauxbait is faux jailbait - pornography depicting adults who appear to be children who appear to be adults.
According to the legal definition of child pornography material here in Australia, fauxbait is child pornography material, because of the implication that the actors depicted represent underage persons. And frankly, we here at MULTIVERSE agree with the law here. Fauxbait is disgusting. Legally and in our opinion, pornography depicting adult women who appear as adults is completely fine. But if someone posts a picture of an adult woman and calls it “fauxbait”, we are disgusted and the law is interested. Reality is not objective - the same legal picture of an adult person becomes illegal child pornography when it’s posted with a particular framing.
fedinsfw.app hosts a community, !fauxbait@fedinsfw.app, which is for Fauxbait. I have contacted the admin of the site, @lemmyposter212@fedinsfw.app, both privately and in public, pointing out that the community breaks the site’s rules 1 and 8. The admin disagrees. Although they dislike the community, they don’t believe it breaks the rules, and do not wish to violate their impartiality by banning the community.
We here at MULTIVERSE have no such impartiality. The admin inaction on child pornography violates our Rule 3 on Restricted Violence, in that it’s fucking nasty. It’s degrading to the women being posted to call them fauxbait, it’s dangerous towards the users to expose them to risks of committing sex crimes, and it has the potential to desensitise people to child porn, making them more likely to re-offend in worse ways. We are joining the growing movement of instances defederating fedinsfw.app, and we ask if your instance has not, that you speak to your admins and ask them to do the same.
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That community doesn’t appear to have any posts — so they’re not actually hosting anything in that community, you just take offense at the name. Or they had stuff up but have since taken it down. From db0 (instance I’m on) it just appears empty.
Not that I disagree with the decision (also, I’m not on your instance, so my opinion is just that), I wholeheartedly do, it just seems like a weird hill to die on, whereas they have a couple other communities where the girls literally look 12. I don’t really mind porn (could take it or leave it in my Lemmy, but it’s nice to see sometimes if it’s ethical) but underage stuff should be banned everywhere. So yeah, get ‘em.
The backstory on this is that after lemmy.blahaj.zone defederated fedinsfw.app for the same reasons we did, I went looking for the offending community to make My own judgement on the matter. The first obviously-not-okay community I found was fauxbait, it had two local posts, and that’s what I approached the admin to report. If other communities have more egregious content, I’m afraid I have no interest in tracking those down, as I don’t like looking at girls who look 12 (and also it’s a crime). So I’ll just have to take your word for it. I normally wouldn’t trust an accusation like that without verifying, but the refusal to take down fauxbait inclines Me towards suspicion.
Thank You for posting this. I actually donated to the instance, partly because I think a site like that will reduce harm overall. So it’s good to be made aware of this.
E: Sorry, I used the wrong pronoun again. I thought it was somebody else posting x.x
I want to state for the record that I was consulted in an administrative capacity by Grail on this. My disgust is hard to measure. More than that, “fauxbait” seems incredibly dangerous. I want everyone to understand that they need to call out, disallow, and refuse to normalise the … blurring of this line and breaking of this moral and legal boundary.